"The Royal Navy will always uphold international law and will not accept unlawful interference with innocent passage," Wallace said. Last night a senior defence source said: 'We strongly believe [Putin's] preference is for a full invasion rather than a limited offensive. Any damage to external sensors, VLS tubes, the bridge area, mast, or flight deck would be enough to take it out of the fight. There was a table top exercise done by the Navy back in the late 80s. He is testing NATO unity and Bidens willingness to risk the wrath of those voters while knowing any faltering step in those voters eyes be it commitment of weakness will bring back a Trump style Govt withRead more , I do wonder if another motivating factor could be something more base than that. Not training troops. The waters wont be crowded, NOTAMs would clear potential conflict areas fast. The warship is feared to be loaded with 7,000mph hypersonic missiles with a range of over 600 miles. Lithuanian Defence Minister Arvydas Anusauskas said today: 'In the current situation, we view the arrival of Russian armed forces in Belarus not only as a destabilising factor in the security situation but also as the one posing an even bigger direct threat to Lithuania.'. Tobias Ellwood said Russian President Vladimir Putin was taking full advantage of a weakened West. Without listing specific equipment plans General Carter hinted long-range precision rockets, air defence missiles and surveillance drones would be brought into service. I think youre forgetting the Enhanced Forward Presence incl Canadians, Spaniards, Portuguese, Italians, Romainians, Slovaka, Czechs, Danes, Norgies, Albanians, Slovenes, Italians, Germans, French and may have missed one or two just saying like. The receiver is a version of the one fitted to the LRASM. NOTAMs will clear seaways fast, whilst the Falklands demonstrated the potency of AsUW back then. I thought you might of recovered somewhat, after that meltdown you had a couple of years ago? Almost all forms of sanctions being discussed have a greater blowback potential on both Europe and the US than their damage on Russia. News Group Newspapers Limited in England No. Are Putins dirty secrets going to be revealed? Britain said Russia was giving an inaccurate account of the incident. Pentagon officials confirmed the basic details on Wednesday. Ill accept naval power but always is a bit sweeping. I cant imagine we would though, as it could cause an incident in the channel. Billboard in Dnipro, Ukraine with the statement written in Russian. For other inquiries, Contact Us. Thats if of the few Astutes we have arent already chasing their own Oscars or Yasen. An armed Russian warship docked at a harbor in Cuba on Monday as Russia warned the U.S. against causing a repeat of the Cuban missile crisis. Biden??? I cant believe Putin seriously wants to invade Ukraine he would lose far more than he gained. Purely theoretical, but just imagine Putin had deployed military units to Iraq in 2002/2003 as peacekeepers and to secure WMD. production rates are a worry. At talks this week with the United States and NATO, Russia has sought security guarantees to defuse the crisis. However, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz said he may consider halting the pipeline if Moscow attacks. Murdaugh is heckled as he leaves court, Two Russian tanks annihilated with bombs by Ukrainian armed forces, Ukraine soldiers shoot down enemy drones with drones of their own, Dozens stuck in car park as staff refuses to open gate for woman, Missing hiker buried under snow forces arm out to wave to helicopter, Insane moment river of rocks falls onto Malibu Canyon in CA, Fleet-footed cop chases an offender riding a scooter, Isabel Oakeshott clashes with Nick Robinson over Hancock texts. Two weeks ago nearly a dozen warships and combat aircraft from Russias Northern, Baltic and Black Sea fleets gave a show of force in the waters off the British and Irish coasts General Sir Nick Carter has said. . With the US on side, it could even be a NATO contingent. If Russia invades what do they do next? In such cluttered close waters, the 4.5 inch is probably the best weapon and only weapon you would need. So easy to detect and evasion not impossible but also easy for CIWS to lock onto. What you are saying is if the US had pre-positioned a couple thousand troops in Ukraine, it wouldve prevented Putin from planning and then sending 100,000+ troops to the border along with simultaneous exercises across all their armed forces around the globe including this one: https://www.thejournal.ie/russia-missile-test-south-west-coast-ireland-5660829-Jan2022/. It could be solved if Ukraine finally implemented the Minsk Protocol it signed in 2015. See here for a complete list of exchanges and delays. We need to re-evaluate our position in the world, step back, calculate the cost of the CASD add that amount to a Defence budget set at 3%. Well the attacks came from Yemen itself as did missiles over night last night they arent coming from Iranian soil. The N Koreans are starving again. If Biden had the balls he could put a small contingent of US troops in Ukraine and dare Putin to attack. Lots of disinformation out there I dont understand how Trump takes no blame on either side of the Atlantic for signing the peace deal with the Taliban of all groups but Biden blamed on this board with no push back. The two Russian vessels in the video released Wednesday are the first the military has announced operating off Hawaii since the new year. As for Corbyn and Johnson, I generally agree I just wish people could see its kind of theRead more , Hi Ron-no need to apologise, I enjoy your posts and know that things for all of us can get robust at times. Critics fear it will increase Germany's reliance on Russian energy supplies. On western side it was concern that with the post Soviet economic collapse theyd end up in very dodgy countries hands. How would you like me to paint Corbin and Johnson with the same brush? "Despite the increase in Russian activity, both on the surface and underwater, we are always ready to respond.". Britain was unexpectedly embroiled in a diplomatic and military dispute with Russia on Wednesday after Royal Navy destroyer HMS Defender briefly sailed through territorial waters off the coast. Is not the opposite more true? The BBC said shots were fired and that as many as 20 Russian aircraft were "buzzing" the British ship. NATO should have gripped the Balts, told them the purchasing would be led by Poland and created a unified equipped group of countries enjoying scale of purchasing. They now believe they have achieved their goal and no longer have to bowRead more , Err no. If Russia did invade the Ukraine, could/would the UK and France deny Russia access through the channel? Warships belonging to the Russian Northern Fleet have sailed through the English Channel in a routine and lawful passage through British waters. The proliferation of this capability within the new Russian Navy is profoundly changing its ability to deter, threaten or destroy adversary targets. Britain disputed the Russian version of events, with Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab calling it "predictably inaccurate". Idiocy. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_2" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Well done RN. Estonia is sending Javelin anti-armor missiles while Latvia and Lithuania are sending Stinger anti-aircraft missiles and related equipment, according to a Friday statement by the countries defense ministers. Im for one are hoping cool heads prevail. At the same time, it has stepped up social media campaigns portraying Ukraine as aggressors. Any commander in defence now has Russian forces to the North, East, South and West; it could all get very tasty. On the face of it, Trumps position on the Right of the political spectrum, should have placed him as a hard opponent of the Russians but he was like a contrite schoolboy sitting next to Putin. As its a shed load easier to detect an RF emission and from a lot further away with a highly sensitive receiver. It is certainly andy reeves again! I think you overestimated Russias economy Ivan , its smaller than that nutty economy of Italys lol. The situation is quiet at the moment but when Idlib lights up the Russians will be there in force. Clearly they have something on him-most probably a secret video of Trump in bed with some Russian beauty! Still better than a 4.5 gun. Thats an oversight. It has a much wider capture angle. HMS Dragon, though reportedly armed with Harpoon, is being put in harms way without a modern AShM. The other question which has been posed before-if the Ukraine had not given up its nukes, would Russia risk starting a fight with them? In a call to Mr Lavrov, Mr Blinken 'stressed the importance of continuing a diplomatic path to de-escalate tensions'. I would love it if we did do that. I can see why you next comment was For starters. He may lose power after a disastrous foreign adventure. I have faith in the crews and TTPs, I have limited faith when the top brass dispense with offensive capabilities that the USN and every other major navy endorses. I have little doubt that corruption in Russia has led to some pretty shoddy construction. I doubt you can stand at all given the amount of hallucinogens you must be partaking. Its the same with 90% of Russian kit. Europe could and should commit itself to being more than a match for Russia if it had the balls. A distraction for poor ratings at home possibly. Using missiles at that close a range in very crowded waters would be crazy. Invasion of a NATO state or even probably Sweden Im sure would. Sheer incompetence being the only major navy in the world to not have AsUW capability beyond a 4.5 pea shooter. T31 is being procured to a strict budget, to get these vessels built and in service pretty quick, and we can upgrade once in service if the need requires it, they are large, and will be a very flexible design allowing more kit to be integrated over the years. U.S. officials have said Russia might attack Ukraine as early as this month when the ground will be harder, making it easier for tanks and other armour to move swiftly. It requires us to hold their backyard at risk, whether thats in the Barents Sea, the High North, the Baltic or the Black Sea.. It seems a good time to propose it in the commons. The diplomat hit out at Germany for failing to match Britain's offer of military aid, with Berlin preferring to focus on the threat of sanctions. Ukraine warns Russia has 'almost completed' build-up of forces near border - CNN. Complex rules of engagement, and a pretty good chance you wont hit the intended target. Whats the Latin 50% because decimate is only 1 in 10 (10%). So will Taiwan. 'The operatives are trained in urban warfare and using explosives to carry out acts of sabotage against Russia's own proxy forces. Six Russian landing ships have sailed past Britain sparking speculation they are bound for an impending 'full-scale invasion' of Ukraine - as Kiev warns President Putin has 'nearly completed' the build-up of troops along the border. Agree but the Russians view is that any weapon in hand can be used against an enemy and therefore gets kept. Pity we didnt keep developing the 6 system fitted to Tiger and Blake? As to the vaccine mandate, you are aware of the cross US/Canada border restrictions that came into force today that affect 50% or so drivers and the log jams in US west coast ports? I wouldnt imagine it would be allowed under international law. It does not stop Russia interfering in/invading Ukraine. Hi Robert. one area that peeves me is that we no longer have the facilities to build produce the equipment fast enough. So, USA has no troops in Ukraine? Indeed you wouldnt need ships to eliminate those ducks as you wouldnt in the Dardanelles if they ever got in a pickle there either as Britain found out before the Gallipoli campaign became a hasty if equally ill fated alternative. A publicly available U.S. intelligence document said Russia could stage an invasion this month with up to 100 battalion tactical groups (BTGs) or some 175,000 troops. He really wants to install a pro-Russian government in Kiev and to have independence for theRead more . By teatime at least during the cold War the surface arm of the RN was given 7 days before lights out 6 days more than the RAF , only the Army faired better indefinitely if resupplied ? A RUSSIAN warship armed with "unstoppable" hypersonic missiles is sailing towards the US coast in a show of strength, reports claim. Combined, these would provide us with a very capable deterrent for home defence from land, sea and air. Yep scapegoating the most powerful National leader in the world because his big stupid plan is tell the Russians he wont militarily defend the Ukraine. The core of the Russian navy's Northern Fleet has been observed manoeuvring in and around Irish-controlled waters in recent days, ahead of planned live-fire drills. Whether hell succeed with his military distraction where General Galtieri failed with this strategy is open to question. Browse an unrivalled portfolio of real-time and historical market data and insights from worldwide sources and experts. It builds up its arsenal in one location to make the world think thats the location they are going to attack. https://www.army-technology.com/projects/land-based-future-local-area-air-defence-system-flaads-land/, Is Russia just grandstanding in some effort to remove the economic sanctions? Patrol ship HMS Tyne monitored two warships and an intelligence gathering vessel as they carried out replenishment operations with their supporting tanker. The ships have included a surfaced submarine, a destroyer, a corvette and a patrol ship along. Agree entirely with what you say but I feel Trump was the one who emboldened Putin in the first place with his wimpish behaviour and with Biden following and little if any better, then no wonder Putin is considering pushing his luck. Patrol ship HMS Severn was on duty in the English Channel and Dover Strait, where it shadowed a surfaced Kilo-class submarine, the Stary Oskol, the corvette Boikiy, patrol ship Vasiliy Bykov and support ships. UK and French jets team up against simulated aerial threat, Britain, Italy and Japan merge combat aircraft projects. return to the tri nations agreement of 1899!! slow not stealthy the bocks the UK has have quite limited onboard electronics. If the RN really wants anti ship missiles, we would get them. US Secretary of State Antony Blinken today warnedRussia could attack Ukraine on 'very short notice'during a meeting with UkrainianPresident Volodymyr Zelensky at the American embassy in Kiev. 'Also, if he just occupies the eastern regions he will never be able to take back the whole of Ukraine because of the inevitable strengthening of Ukrainian forces in the remainder of the country in the aftermath. A pair of those would make a proper mess of todays warships. SMs dont spend a lot of time having needless conversations with their controlling authority. They are not a golden bullet. Regime change? It said about 50 BTGs were already in place to the north and east of Ukraine and in Crimea to the south. The Telegraph values your comments but kindly requests all posts are on topic, constructive and respectful. The Iranians are being bombed at will. The group of vessels, which remained in international. He would have stolen a march under US noses, scored a propaganda victory, brought Iraq under Russian influence and probably have prevented the 2003 invasion. Will it damage to a ship? russian dockyards will need to build more tugs. Commander Ed Moss-Ward, HMS Portland's commanding officer, said: "Escorting warships in UK territorial waters and the adjacent sea areas is routine activity for the Royal Navy. Europe? F35 will be able to carry 8 of these missiles internally. Putin might be doing maskirovka. Russian warships have been seen acting unusually off the south coast of Ireland. These Russian landing ships are probably headed into the Black Sea for possible amphibious ops against Ukraine. Estimates of the numbers of new Russian troops moved closer to Ukraine vary from 60,000 to around 100,000, with a U.S. intelligence document suggesting that number could be ramped up to 175,000. Except, Trump isnt the President, its the weak Biden who sits in the oval office and has for a wee while now. He has set out his demands publicly (Ukraine never to join NATO, EFP troops to withdraw from Poland and the Baltics as a minimum) and he will then withdraw his troops we in the west will not agree to any of that. 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(NATO will do nothing without US Support) Alternatively, NATO could station aircraft in Ukraine bordering countries and work with the Ukrainian AF to secure Ukraine airspace again daring Putin to attack NATO Aircraft. Yep 100%. This may include adverts from us and 3rd parties based on our understanding. All it takes is for 1 to get through! Our potential foes are very clever and will exploit gaps. Anti-air systems appear to be a weakness for Ukraine which might be something that the US should focusRead more . British Defence Minister Ben Wallace accused Russian pilots of conducting unsafe aircraft manoeuvres 500 feet (152 m) above the warship. 'Clearly the preferable path, clearly the most responsible path and the one that we would prefer, but there is also the path if Russia chooses to renew aggression, of conflict, confrontation and consequences for Russia,' Blinken said. We should grant him that and make it a reality. Ukraine is not a NATO country, therefore Article 5 will not be called and NATO will not fight. Certainly, if small, but it isnt going to be sinking any frigates or destroyers let alone a cruiser many of which are being fitted with anti shell or missile weapons. Most of these incidents were blamed by Iran on Israel. HMS Lancaster joined Severn tracking Steregushchiy-class corvette Boikiy in the Channel and using its Wildcat helicopter to gather intelligence. There was the Orange revolution in Ukraine in 2004/5 that was the point that they started to orient themselves more with the West. Id still bet the Poles will be doing a lot of footwork on how to help the Ukrainians. The RN suffered badly in the Falklands through short sightedness and gaps in capabilities, and is sadly doomed to suffer again unless it takes the enemies and their capabilities and tactics seriously. With pressure to take a more hawkish stance, he met Nato Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg in Berlin to discuss the next steps. Large cruise missile ship, the Marshal Ustinov, is one of at least three Russian navy ships that have been travelling back from the Mediterranean to their home port in the north of Russia. It would be a signal of intent to the Russians. I think it is sad that Biden never got a shot at the Presidency a decade ago. Genuine question did Ukraine have 100% complete control of the USSR nuclear weapons that had been stationed in its territory? That would make a great movie but better to follow the money trail back to Russia and other foreign powers. 'We are asking for more, and we are expecting to have more,' Mr Prystaiko told BBC Radio 4's Today programme. Russia said it had ventured as far as 3 km (2 miles) into Russian waters near Cape Fiolent, a landmark on Crimea's southern coast near the port of Sevastopol, headquarters of the Russian Navy's Black Sea fleet. Times where unity is needed he takes EU presidency and is calling for the EU to do their own deal with Russia. Moscow has announced the 'successful' completion of tests on its Kinzhal - or Dagger - hypersonic missiles, which can carry nuclear or conventional weapons with a range of 1,250 miles, in the Arctic, though the weapons had been deployed with Russian forces ahead of the trials. Dont we have typhoons in the Balkans and Romania? Social Media and Comment Moderation Policy, New British nuclear missile submarine reaches milestone, Despite funding concerns Type 32 Frigate still planned, European deployment successfully completed by Royal Navy, UK and US nuclear missile submarines send message to Russia, UK signs for Aster 30 Block 1 anti-ballistic missile weapons, Royal Navy seeking loitering munitions for ships, https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2022/01/us-sends-more-military-equipment-ukraine/361042/ , NATO battlegroup in Bulgaria reaches full capability, BBC announces new aircraft carrier documentary. AnyRead more , Once again I must say that your assessment is spot on. Reuters provides business, financial, national and international news to professionals via desktop terminals, the world's media organizations, industry events and directly to consumers. Pentagon spokesman John Kirby said the intelligence was 'very credible.'. Home of the Daily and Sunday Express. The Royal Navy said it is tracking the frigate and the tanker movements with an HMS Portland frigate, as it could carry what is considered to be one of the world's deadliest weapons. I really cant believe he wants to invade Ukraine. Severn was also on patrol as the Vice-Admiral Kulakov sailed through the Channel. 'I strongly, strongly hope that we can keep this on a diplomatic and peaceful path, but ultimately, that's going to be President Putin's decision.'. Douglas you are as delusional as can be in your explanation (Bidens fault) for why this is happening. However, the MoD has failed to reveal which, if any, of the existing equipment programmes will be cut to reduce the funding gap. Dont want to show my age but I remember reading about the Ropucha class as a schoolboy in the 80s. Trump kissed Putins behind in every way possible to the point he tried to break our democracy on the 6th of January, 2021. , As you can see from the pic at the top the Russian ship is within visual range. More of your disinfo to correct here the US spends as much as the next 11 biggest spenders combined on defense nowadays not the rest of the world. Today : UK Navy Shocked, 7 Russian Warships off UK CoastNine Royal Navy warships are shadowing seven Russian warships after "unusually high levels of activit. If you mean why T26 isnt fitted with ASROC, then that has been explained at length by many other commentators, and with very good reason. America last night warned the Kremlin of 'massive consequences' as its top diplomat flew to Europe for last-ditch talks aimed at averting war. First Sea Lord Admiral Tony Radakin said: "This is why the Royal Navy is at sea every day, protecting the UK and our interests. Ukraine was in part happy to negotiate them away for exactly that reason. So many completely underestimate the complexity and difficulties of achieving the kill chain with Anti ship missiles. Actually, its an interesting point. Id call it a battle group wholly equipped with obsolete AFVs. 2014-2021 UK Defence Journal, all rights reserved. Something that clearly says were here, and were flying over Ukraine and you arent stopping us. The Russians are on drawdown but maintaining overwatch I understand. Munich - Officially, Vladimir Putin's goal in the Ukraine war is still to denazify the neighboring country. My good friend and neighbour, an ex USN chief engineer on subs is a mildly Right of Centre Republican but even he voted for Biden in the last election. Russian forces could expand the fighting in Donbass to draw Ukraine into a conventional conflict, said Neil Melvin, director of International Security Studies at the RUSI think-tank in London. Missile attacks would take advantage of Ukraine's weaker anti-missile defences. I didnt think anyone could be worse than Trump. US Secretary of State Antony Blinken will meet Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Wednesday before holding talks with his Russian counterpart Sergey Lavrov in Geneva on Friday in the latest attempt to defuse the crisis. means nothing until they are in the fleet, weve got more warships but the admiralty and the M.O.D cant see beyond their arrogance 5 more rivers given the thai navy upgrades to their batch 2 KRABI i.e a 76 otto melara rapid fire gun which was chosen ahead of the raytheon ram 116 system two extra 30mm cannon located aft of the bridge wings with the option of martlet sometime in the future otions to fit harpoon, these are real warships and we should do the same and designate them as corvettes or light frigates add 5 more warships to todays number of 19, then, 24 ships soundsRead more , reasonable place to forward base a t31 maybe. Some operating virtually continuously for a couple of years or more on a return trip every month. The White House corrected the off the cuff remark from the long press conference. He urged Putin to take 'the path of diplomacy and dialogue to try to resolvedifferences there are peacefully' hours after the Biden administration said it would provide an additional $200 million in defensive military aid to Ukraine in the face of Russian aggression. Forces would secure control of a canal that provided Crimea with fresh water supplies until Russia annexed the region and Ukraine stopped the flow, he said. The USA didnt pick UkraineRead more . Officialssaid last week that Russia had deployed agents trained in sabotage and urban warfare to launch a 'false-flag' attack on proxy forces, providing the pretext for invasion. Please review our, You need to be a subscriber to join the conversation. It can be logically assumed that KALIBR capability willRead more . 'This of course would be the most costly economically, politically and in terms of human lives and that's probably why it's least likely,' Melvin said of an all-out invasion. That was 4 years ago after the initial push against ISIS was over. good job that idiot trump doesnt have access to the red button or the west would be rubble. During the Cold War it became traditional to test the resolve of an incoming new American president with a manufactured crisis. The group thinkers on here have no idea of the N2 capabilities of RU and without AsUW the RN is in danger of being decimated before tea time. French President Emmanuel Macron has offered to send troops to Romania., https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-60077776. Sounds like we havent learned any lessons from history! Surface vessels Anti ship missiles are effectively back up.
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