3,263,547, 4,662,315 Check out the weather around the world with our featured, global weather cams I have two of them. Getting back to the subject of Bowies during the Vietnam time period. (75% off), Sale Price 1,722,414 Stories of Cowboys and Indians and shoot-outs at the O.K. by zzyzzogeton Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:43 am, Post $80-$140 yablanowitz Platinum Member Joined Apr 14, 2006 Messages 9,333 Jun 13, 2009 #3 Depending on the exact age of the knives, they may be very good steel. One must handle this knife to appreciate the quality. Western Outlaw Bowie Knife by Timber Rattler It is 17 inches long and is almost 0.5 inches wide. Learn more. $21.96, $31.38 joe. A couple years ago I bought a Coleman era W49. 1,218,966, 2,216,502 2,603,550, 4,733,728 At least none that I can find. Original Price 6,157,389 It can also be identified by the smaller pins in the handle. Is it possible that the ones you think are chrome plated are STAINLESS STEEL and the ones you think are not chromed are regular "carbon steel"??? (45% off), Sale Price 1,952,663 3,386,453, 6,157,389 Found something you love but want to make it even more uniquely you? But without more evidence to support them the above examples are my recommendation at this time. (40% off), Sale Price $75.30 It is guard marked:WESTERN BOULDER / COLO. USA on the mark side and BOWIE on the pile side. Western Bowie 1984. In 1978 the company moved to Longmont, CO. My knife has an abbreviated guard that was done by a previous owner and is currently semi-Bagwellized. Theres still a lot to uncover about this subject. Camillus discontinued the use of date codes. The chrome plated ones were in really nice shape other then some chipping to the chrome and handle wear and maybe minor pitting. I cut the hilt down took some belly off the blade, had a sheath made and for a total investment of $40.00 got a knife that has served me well. Coleman Western 954 Double Lock with box and pouch (1989), Western USA S-532 "A" Wood Westlock Lockback 1977, Vintage Western Boulder Colo. 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It could have been a special order as there were Western Bowies ordered by 5th Special Forces with blade inscriptions. Buy now. Through name changes--to Western States Cutlery Co. in 1953, then Western Cutlery Co. in 1956--and moves first across town and later to Longmont Colorado, the company stayed under the leadership of the Platt family until 1984. Gil Hibben 65TH Anniversary Old West Bowie Knife And Sheath - Stainless Steel Blade, Wooden Handle, Gold-Plated Guard $109.99 (45% off), Sale Price 1,637,685 (40% off), Sale Price 2,359,467 Original Price 2,958,284 Original Price $289.00 (50% off), Sale Price 1,912,315 I'm confused. Also they produced the stock number (649) a bowie with a handle made of synthetic stag for the handle. Original Price 4,186,946 Western Alamo Bowie Knife 4.8 ( 10 reviews) Your Price: $106.99 Solid stainless steel blade Handsome wooden handle with gold pins Engraved Jim Bowie name plate Includes leather sheath and certificate of authenticity Measures: 11" blade; 17 1/4" overall Product Description From the movie "The Alamo" comes the world renown Jim Bowie knife. 2,807,882, 9,359,606 The one I have is chromed on the blade, crossguard and handle pins. Create an Account Stay up to date withYour Favorite Knife Makers. Absolutely! Back in the early, and late 70's, all the guys I approached for any type of knife, especially SOG knives, said they left them in Vietnam. Original Price $121.00 Original Price 7,118,227 I have two other knives my cousin gave me in 1969 when he returned from Vietnam. 2,733,744, 4,205,911 (45% off), Sale Price 1,056,736 It may not display this or other websites correctly. All have positives all have negatives oh to decide i still have the one i bought back in the '70's i wore every where butt work. 2,438,424, 4,876,847 Check out completed auctions on the 'Bay for an idea of value. Western Knives of Boulder Colorado made four models of the Bowie knife. Tweet For Sale By: Sanders Knives (Sanders Knives), View all items for sale by Sanders Knives, Shipping & Handling to United States Addresses: $8.50. In 1911, H. N. Platts, was able to draw on his extensive friendships and family connections in the cutlery world to start Western States Cutlery and Manufacturing of Boulder Colorado. western style Bowie knife Hammerheadknife (13) $200.00 FREE shipping More like this Large bowie knife ForgeZbk (14) $599.24 FREE shipping More like this 10 inches Blade Hand crafted Bowie knife, Bushcraft knife, full tang, leaf spring of truck, Tempered, Razor Sharpen, Ready to use Famouskukri (186) $149.99 $249.99 (40% off) FREE shipping (60% off), Sale Price 4,173,623 So their history is rather murky, to say the least. Boker 1969 Z28-Damast Liner Lock Knife Blue Aluminum (3.15" Damascus) MSRP: $594.95 Our Price: $446.21 Preorder Down Payment: $5.00 Add to Cart Vargo Knives Sobata 398 Frame Lock Knife Titanium (3" Satin Sintered Ti) Our Price: $225.00 Add to Cart Jake Hoback Perseverance Fixed Blade Knife Black G-10 (6.1" Stonewash) Our Price: $365.00 Add to Cart With powerful tools and services, along with expert support and education, we help creative entrepreneurs start, manage, and scale their businesses. Youll see ad results based on factors like relevancy, and the amount sellers pay per click. Stainless steel does not peel off as you know. The seller might still be able to personalize your item. (70% off). Original Price 2,216,502 I've got several W49 bowies, the oldest dating to around the mid 60s. (10% off), Sale Price 4,617,980 91/4"LONG BLADE,TOTAL KNIFE LENGTH IS 14 1/2", BLADE WIDTH IS 2" & WEIGHS 1# 14 OZ IN SHETH. This pattern is not exclusive to Western although they were the last to mass produce it. AAPK Tips and Tricks -- An Illustrated FAQ Forum on Steriods, Knife Lore - Traditional Knives From the Old Days, Canal Street Cutlery Collector's Forum, Cattaraugus Cutlery Collector's Forum, Great Eastern Cutlery (GEC) Collector's Forum, Robeson Cutlery Company Collector's Forum, Schatt & Morgan Knife Collector's Forum, Knife Related Creation, Modification, And Restoration Forums. It's the 30s to 76 that is sometimes enigmatic. Please. I was surprised by the thinness of the spine. Comes with the original sheath, has two notches cutout at top, not sure why, but been there a while. Never sharpened, carried, or cleaned. The W47 measures 12" from tip to hilt, W45 measures 9" and the 43 or mini measures 6 1/2". Charlie, Teslleta: Here it is. : Western USA W49 Wood Bowie Fixed Blade Knife & Sheath c.1984, SPRING HILL CUTLERY (eBay: bargainseller02), Western Boulder, Colo. 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But once you mod 'em they lose all collector's value. Late 1800s antique British US Western style Bowie knife marked IXL. Yes! If you want a big bowie with similar features and you don't want to pay a premium for what has become a collector's item, consider the Ontario made Marine Rader Bowie. There was a problem subscribing you to this newsletter. Take full advantage of our site features by enabling JavaScript. Under Add your personalization, the text box will tell you what the seller needs to know. I don't consider it to be bad. The knife on the left is the 2nd variant of the W49 and is blade marked: The knife in the middle with the larger pins and modified guard is an example of the 5th variant, c.1977. If there is a letter on the blade under the Western name it is post 1977. The ones brought home were kept, or given to some relative. Original Price 4,063,793 Average depth of cut with the same swing was almost a half inch. That was interesting. +C $35.71 shipping estimate. The Western W-49 is made of 1095 carbon steel. I used the Forester first, while I was fresh. I did it out of personal curiosity when I got my Forester. #1 of 4 hotels in Bowie Location 4.3 Cleanliness 4.1 Service 4.0 Value 3.8 Located in Bowie,TX, the Best Western Bowie Inn & Suites is sure to provide a peaceful and comforting home away from home for any traveler. This is a great bowie knife that you can get for under $30. I cleaned them up and blued one of them for a more uniform patina. The most common by far is the bowie with the wooden handle the (W49). Original Price $31.38 Western started doing this in 1977 and Coleman/Western continued it. Original Price $169.99 Damascus Steel: Is My Knife Real or Fake. Set where you live, what language you speak, and the currency you use. If you are not familiar with that wood, it is in the same class as white oak. Heres mine with box and paper works as well as the original sales receipt from December of 68. My biggest concern with their "chopping" ability is the very thin edge. 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Etsy is powered by 100% renewable electricity. Please check your browser settings or contact your system administrator. Sellers looking to grow their business and reach more interested buyers can use Etsys advertising platform to promote their items. $75.30, $188.24 You never want to tell a Ranger he can't make a knife. Top Rated Seller. 2,135,468, 7,118,227 You must log in or register to reply here. It holds a razor sharp edge and for a knife with a 9 inch blade does a wonderful job. Western didn't seem to keep real accurate records. Now I cleaned it up and sharpened it and it is my home office tactical letter opener. Great 'package'. The letters used start with "A" for 1977 and go on to "0" for 1991 when Camillus bought the rights to Western at auction. (70% off), Sale Price 2,684,911 It took me about thirty minutes to get halfway through the log. Boy, I'll say! Etsy uses cookies and similar technologies to give you a better experience, enabling things like: Detailed information can be found in Etsys Cookies & Similar Technologies Policy and our Privacy Policy. i still have mine its a hellava knife!! Original Price $164.99 Im thinking these must have come from their custom shop. The second problem is defining the Vietnam time period for these knives and other equipment. 1,722,414, 2,460,591 See all reviews . (20% off), Sale Price $66.55 $89.17, $297.22 As I've mentioned I've been offered a nice roi for my blade, but I'm not sure I would take a truck in exchange. Designed by Jim Bowie and fabricated first by Jesse Clifft, the almost 10-inch-long blade had a flat spine and no guard between its blade and handle. The most common by far is the bowie with the wooden handle the (W49). Original Price $188.24 The chrome one I own has a replacment sheath made of canvas. The facts are that the last two years of the war The U.S. was not sending in much of anything into the country as far as manpower and equipment. Still has factory edge. I have never seen an original box & papers for a W49 Bowie. I think I read somewhere that when Camillus bought the name in 1991, they moved production to the Camillus factory in New York. (50% off), Sale Price 1,896,552 You've already signed up for some newsletters, but you haven't confirmed your address. Original Price 2,339,655 The only sure way to get one that was in Vietnam is from a vet that can document the knife. Wild West Bowie Knives. However one cant say that such detailed information ever did exist on paper. Thanks for compiling this data and putting it into the chart that you've provided. Thanks zzyzzogeton! All of the W49s Ive seen from Western Cutlery are high carbon steel and most of them show some sign of aging after 30 plus years. Thanks GIRLYmann! Canadianlisted.com, kijiji. I know a thin edge can chop without damage if used properly, but I cant guarantee I my form will always be perfect when using a "chopper". Consistently earned 5-star reviews, shipped orders on time, and replied quickly to messages, Looks like you already have an account! It is blade marked:WESTERN / USA / W49 with the letter "A" which signifies the first year that Western implemented the alphabetical date code (1977). by zzyzzogeton Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:46 am, Post The knife in the middle with the larger pins and modified guard is an example of the 5th variant, c.1977. (70% off), Sale Price 2,135,468 I hope that there will be enough detail for me to identify the order of tang and guard stamp introduction on the W49s and other models as well. Suggestions, Questions, Comments, Concerns, Alerts, Etc Member Store Tips, Tricks & Instructions, The Western Bowie / W49 Identification Thread, Re: The Western Bowie / W49 Identification Thread. The exception being that instead of the word Bowie on the pile side it would say "W49." Create a Show & TellReport as inappropriate. I just scored a copy of Harvey Platts' "The Knife Makers Who Went West" from 1978. I hope this helps, Brad? It was thrown in the dirt by a local maker. Depending on the exact age of the knives, they may be very good steel. AH, I was unaware of this point. I have attempted to research these Western knives, of late, and, to be honest with you, the the deeper I dig the more confused I get. The Bowie knife also played a prominent role in western lore. Ive got WW2 and earlier knives that left the factory chrome plated and most of them look as new or close to it. Shipping policies vary, but many of our sellers offer free shipping when you purchase from them. 4,256,897, 6,978,325 Forged from tough 1075 carbon steel, the Undertaker is the largest knife on our list, with a blade length of just over 10 inches, and an overall length of 15.5 inches. Its generally excepted that the first two variations on this knife where blade marked (see pics below). Tim-I found out a long time ago, from returning Vietnam veterans, was that they gave away their knives to buddies or indig troops before they left. Chrome plating of the blade was to protect it from rust in the jungle. You can see where some of the plating is peeling with age and use. 32.9 un fullered blade has a simple IXL stamp to ricasso and 'CP' mark to surface. Click Buy it now or Add to cart and proceed to checkout. Weight for the weight weirdos is 1 lb 4 ounces knife only. (60% off), Sale Price 2,807,882 (45% off), Sale Price 3,047,783 For Sale: Custom & Semi Production Knives (Dealer), KnifeMaker's Market: Knives & More for Sale, Wanted: Knifemaker / Craftsman / Related Services, Busse / Swamprat / Scrapyard Knives For Sale, For Sale: Traditionals, Slipjoints, "Old Timey", International (Non-US) For Sale & Trade Forums, https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/new-members-please-read-this-what-is-my-knife-worth.904093/. The 4th variant, I believe, is similarly guard marked and stamped "W49" instead of Bowie, like the 3rd variant, on the pile side. The online community of knife collectors, A Knife Family Forged in Steel, 1977 was the first year that Western knives started using the alphabet, starting with the letter "A", to date code their knives. Timber Rattler Western Outlaw Bowie Knife Check Price. here's a pic of the western along side an old trailmaster and recon. It was also the last year they were made in Boulder, CO. - They moved to Longmont, CO. in 1978 and continued the alphabet dating code for another 15 years until they were sold at auction to Camillus in 1991. The cv recon/tm seem about twice as thick. 1,708,876, 1,898,817 I knew your research was fairly extensive and that you had more info than I could ever find in a short timethat's why I linked to your thread from KF. As far as a real chopper goes, my W49 out performed my Spyderco/Hossum Forester in side by side testing. Does shopping on Etsy help support small businesses? The straight-edge knife is fitted with a 7-inch blade and. Original Price 6,157,389 The knife he left us, which bears his name, ranks with the Kentucky rifle and the Colt Peacemaker as an. Thanks for stepping in, Sac. This would provide the best provenance to establishing the exact time periods for these variations on the Western W49 and 649 knifes. 0 CART. Thick edges annoy me. 1978 was "B" and so on. Probably one of the most memorable movie quotes of all time came about when Crocodile Dundee scoffed at a mugger's switchblade saying, "That's not a knife." Cut off the top guard years ago. I guess I have been lucky over the past 35 years of collecting. IMHO many more variations on these knives also fall into the proper Vietnam time period. 1,952,663, 3,550,296 VINTAGE WESTERN USA W49 BOWIE KNIFE Leather Sheath WWII Antique Original. by zzyzzogeton Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:47 am, Post They made several matching that description, but the most common I see are the 8" G46-8 or L46-8. (25% off), Sale Price $77.64 Vintage Western folding pocket knife # 51 Made in the USA!!! It is blade marked: WESTERN / USA / W49 with the letter "A" which signifies the first year that Western implemented the alphabetical date code . Thanks for all the Western Bowie related info, catalog links, etc. I've mentioned my love for my old w49 several times here. An "I" version would be from 1985, the year after Coleman took over. Facebook, Tags: Bagwell-Bowie, Bowie, Vintage, Western-Cutlery-W49. You must log in or register to reply here. The knife in the middle with the larger pins and modified guard is an example of the 5th variant, c.1977. Turning off personalized advertising opts you out of these sales. Learn more in our Privacy Policy., Help Center, and Cookies & Similar Technologies Policy.   United States   |   English (US)   |   $ (USD). The side by side testing I mentioned was chopping through a five inch thick seasoned locust log. Original Price 9,359,606 They all had really good documentation. 2,093,350, 4,186,946 Also has medal with his name and paper documents dated 69-70. hi sactroop the info you sent to me, is just what i was look for and the photos are a great help to me aswell.thanks for your help. The knife in the box above looks dull due to the original preservative still being on the knife after 40+ years. It has been custom painted with knotwork. Pics would help to identify the knife. Camillus closed it doors for the last time in April of 2007. Now I see them going for very good money. While the official end of the Vietnam war is April 30 1975 The day the North Vietnamese entered the U.S. Embassy grounds. Eventually purchased by Camillus in 1991, Western continued until Camillus expired in 2007. Original Price 4,205,911 Jul 5, 2013. Many of the examples of Vietnam War vintage Bowies do not appear to have traveled any further west than the California shoreline, Chrome plating of the blade was to protect it from rust in the jungle. Sale Price 1,775,148 The marking are very important. Corral have been captivating the imaginations of America's boys and girls for generations, as something about that lawless, pioneering time speaks to the heart of America's individualistic mentality. Sellers looking to grow their business and reach more interested buyers can use Etsys advertising platform to promote their items. The 4th variant, I believe, is similarly guard marked and stamped "W49" instead of Bowie, like the 3rd variant, on the pile side. US MILITARIA FORUM - COLLECTORS PRESERVING HISTORY Also they produced the stock number (649) a bowie with a handle made of synthetic stag for the handle. At first only a jobbing business, by 1920 construction and machinery purchases were underway to begin manufacture of knives. waters edge cowley events,
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