So in our composite we have IC conjunct north node again (wth 12 minute orb) with composite mercury sitting at 20 aries. I also agree with both peoples comments below about the importance of absolute honesty, especially with this aspect. that should help at deciphering a synastry by making clear personal tendencies of each. Your synastry aspects sound so powerful. Also i feel like I have accomplished( its a feeling only) a lot and now is the time to pamper myself(if that makes any sense) lol. You can continue the unfinished business with him next life. The Sun and Pluto aspects in Love Synastry is considered to be a mighty powerful one. The sun represents our ego, core being and personality. It takes courage to remove old things and make room for new things in life. Kiron in aries; house 7 I want to say Im not manipulative but I know if I said that it would be a complete lie. She was a trouble child. Daleth, Does Eros/Psyche conj in composite chart count for soulmate ??? IC person may be comforted by that omnipresence in relationships they approve of, but greatly distressed by those they don't - and suffer an inability to effectively "push away" or have privacy. Would you be able to do an interpretation of the compatibility between Bo Burnham and Lorene Scafaria? Ascendant in virgo. How would a Pluto/Moon conjunct the other angles act and feel for both sides? Also is the Dispositor. Can the exact conj between sun/moon midpoints compensate that? The angles are just so much more sensitive to conjunctions. Discuss Moon Trine Pluto Synastry Double Whammy In The Astrology Forum. My Mars trine his Jup in Gem. We all have that one that got away. dear Jamie, thank you for sharing this valuable information! I expect the same from them and they give it to me. Pluto energy allows Venus to know her primal, sexual feelings. This would be when your Venus aspects your partners Mars, and when your Mars aspects your partners Venus. You dont know what is down there waiting for you. The Pluto person, on the other hand, sometimes doesnt know how to deal with the Moon person. My love and I have many opposites. The Mars person instinctively senses the needs of the Moon person and strives to fulfil them. The IC person may also attempt to enclose PLUTO within its walls and trap them there. Imagine the Moon as a flower, and Pluto as nuclear powerhouse. Mars conjunct Mars would be highly charged assertive/aggressive sexual chemistry. The Sun is drawn by Pluto's depth and this kind of relationship often has a powerful and psychological impact on both people involved. I agree it is irrational, it doesnt make any sense (the discourse makes me think of a naive teenager but hey, its been 13 years, whatever age you might have had when the story had started, you cant be a teenager anymore. Node Conjunct Pluto Hi Dani :) Couples do not lack having a passionate and loving family. They sometimes feel stifled in the relationship, and want the Moon person to give them more space. A quality relationship has two Pillars, just like Boaz and Jachin, the legendary pillars of Solomons Temple, extrapolating it to an enduring temple of love: And these two pillars have the ability to sustain the most important criterion, the Roof: Based on my research so far, conducted on various and multiple examples of such relationships that already stood the test of time, I identified the armature of such a building, a must-check list when evaluating the potential of a relationship with astrology. Someone who does not already have a natal MOON-PLUTO contact will be surprised, overrun, and probably terrified of PLUTO's influence, since they've never had to deal with it before. The Pluto person is a transformative force in the Moon persons life, while the Moon person gives safety and support. If you are the Moon person, you are instinctively drawn to the Pluto person, its almost like you were obsessed with them. I really do feel like he's my other half.. or twin flame. By clicking Accept, you consent to the use of ALL the cookies. You want to be the center of their world. Planets And Asteroids Whereas Venus represents love and what we attract, and Mars represents passion and desire. And after I met with someone. All points on the list are present in long-term quality romantic/marital - type relationships, in various degrees for each point, and having all of them prominent in synastry/composite actually qualifies for an astrological theoretical model of romantic relationships. Often, as humans, we want to know the compatibility (including sexual compatibility) between two sun signs. The best you can do is to choose the parts of you that dont work well, and give them voluntarily to Pluto. sun/saturn DW The sexual magnetism to each other is powerful. Or is he a romantic interest? His Mars trine my Jup in Can. Soulmates A Moon conjunct Pluto relationship is filled with tension (of the wrong kind). A Moon-Pluto aspects in synastry is never a piece of cake. Incidentally, I have natal AC conj SN 0. my IC by 1 in my 4th. When the Sun of partner 1 aspects Mars of person 2 and at the same time the Sun of partner 2 aspects Mars of person 1, we have a double whammy. because the man apparently refuses to be with anyone but her and she kind of feels awful for ruining his life (and at the same time is afraid she might never be able to give him the life he wants) Synastry represents the study of people's birth charts in comparison to one another, in order to figure out what are the odds for their compatibility. I abhor the fact that people use the bond in such a devious manner, and make it harder for others in a similar situation to trust that their partner isnt doing the same. Can the sun moon be in the same sign but not conj in degrees? Hah, x-ray vision! Many missteps, stumbles, and upsets along the way. Moon-Pluto trine or sextile in a synastry chart suggests a passionate relationship, where intimacy helps you deepen the relationship and make the bond between you even stronger. However, Plutonian relationships are often romanticized, because in reality, they are incredibly painful, too. But he doesnt want a relationship and I do. As the PLUTO person, she tried exerting control, while my dad tried to contain her. 3) Do you think it is significant to have draco and tropical composite sharing exact zodiac points but different planets? Equally, the Mars person read the Venus person too stuffy or flowery. Sun-Pluto contacts in synastry may show compulsive interactions, sexual tensions, and possibly jealousy and possessiveness. Otherwise, what is there to get fired up about? I've never felt anything like I felt that. And many other conjunction with outer planets Yes, I have this aspect with my boss at work and also many more plutonian aspects with him (venus square pluto, sun square pluto etc.). NN/dsc cnj ve/ma December 2016 Neptune square Ascendant additional info- As the Pluto person, you have the power to call the shots on how much control (if any) you allow this connection to have on you. The challenge in oppositions is learning how to positively integrate this "swing" or seesaw energy. The Mars/Pluto double whammy partially depends upon the sign and house of the conjunction, and how it is aspected. Their softness overwhelms them (soft as not in the good sense of the world), and sometimes they see the Moon person as needy and childish. Someone my age will have PLUTO in roughly the same spot, so my MOON will "feel" pretty much the same as usual about anyone else's PLUTO. The Inner Sky, Steven Forrest: https://www.amazon.com/Inner-Sky-Wiser-Choices-Fulfilling/dp/0979067715 I am a Capricorn Sun, Leo Moon, Libra Ascendant born on January 18 1995/ 23:55 l read that in synastry the connections are usually one way. As for VESTA, that's your blood, sweat, and tears at work there. But not here. Read this: Plutonian relationships in astrology. I've looked at books for examples of synastry charting, and see few double whammys. When the Moon person meets Pluto, there is a deep emotional pull towards one another. From beginners through to advanced students of Astrology. Any cookies that may not be particularly necessary for the website to function and is used specifically to collect user personal data via analytics, ads, other embedded contents are termed as non-necessary cookies. please excuse my hasty Aries mercury :D, No worries! I am searching for twin flame signs however I get too insecure down the road and ask for insight Pluto can get mean. For example - I have a natal MOON conj PLUTO 6 (aspecting). Pluto gives intensity to everything it comes into contact with.The Moon is the instincts, habits, unconscious patterns. These astrological aspects do not by any means tell us whether the relationship is happy or healthy. Even though that is PLUTO's specialty, I would say it's still no easy feat. This is the mathematical midpoint between the natal Sun and Moon. At its core (a Plutonian word), when Moon and Pluto oppose each other in synastry, the tension from this aspect can interfere with the development of the relationship, owing to at least one person's compulsion for control and demand for power. What are the sexual aspects? The less resistance you feel, the easier it will be for you. It probably does feel so strong to me because of IC being a lunar angle. This person's Ceres is conjunct his Pluto, so his Ceres is also conjunct my IC in my 4th. With Moon being my chart ruler, it probably hit me extra hard. The true mission of Pluto is healing. He is just someone who has had a profoundly deep impact on me. Thank you so, so much for your detailed post. Playing games is part of Pluto in astrology: refined mental tactics or violent outbursts are both part of Plutos manifestation. Another level of connectedness is the presence of a "double-whammy." This occurs when there is a relationship between two planets that is reciprocal, not necessarily the same aspect but the same planets involved. Ideal: DW (double whammy) Having a Sun/Moon AND a Venus/Mars DW is quite rare, so don't get discouraged. Its one. If you know what the Moon shows in the birth chart, you know why. The other is venus conjunct Jpiter in apex and mid heaven and kiron in basis. PETIT LENORMAND GRAND TABLEAU - THE ULTIMATE READING, LE JEU DU DESTIN ANTIQUE (ANCIENT PROPHETIC GAME). This is true for me too , this pluto and moon person experience transformed me and liberated me from my past hurt it changed me but I know now it was never supposed to last because I began to love myself too much to live miserably. Regardless of whether the aspect is an opposition, conjunction, square, etc. Chiron square Uranus There is much to be said about this DW, but it would be a powerful one, especially considering these are the Nodes of the Moon itself. October 2017 I have 2 yods with someone in composite chart. Node oppose Mars The Moon person gets turned on by the Mars persons advances. GREAT SEX!! He is Pisces Sun , Libra Moon, Libra Ascendant born on 17 March 1987/21:00 They feel that something is odd. A Moon conjunct Pluto synastry suggests a deep, passionate bond that is not without power struggles and a desire to control and fully possess. Moon Pluto Eros Mars Venus Mars Synastry: This aspect especially potent when the woman's Venus is being aspected by the man's Mars. I believe all Moon-Mars aspects bring this energy into any partnership. Pluto is always hungry for power. You may even find you become obsessed with one another! February 2017 Sorry i couldnt keep much contempt out my words because im not about to hide im just plain disappointed that people are so immoral nowadays, the mere fact that he COULD get a girl that doesnt mind forays with married men but he chose you isnt such a compliment .. We both have MOON conjunct JUPITER by sign. One astrologer said that it is a more "provocative" connection in Synastry than the Venus/Mars conjunction. People are mostly interested into getting a synastry report about their (potential) relationship. Pluto is the planet of intensity, you know. I've been active reader of your posts on lindaland forum. Theres not much information on that out there, what do you think? It is the only way for it to work and not be awful. Both the Sun and Mars are masculine energy planets. Their composite and Synastry charts look more compatible than any others Ive seen and theyve been together 9 years. I have this with a girl I am crushing on HARD, and it is a double whammy. However, the Pluto person is afraid of loosing the Moon person, too. Cartomancy All Example: Man's pluto in aspect to woman's venus, while woman's pluto aspects the man's venus. With the exception of me being the intense Pluto person & the one that knows everything about him, all the qualities of the Moon are what I am experiencing, and rest of the Pluto qualities (minus the 2 Pluto qualities I noted above) are how I am experiencing him. These are two personalities that are going to collide no matter what happens around them. The intensity of Pluto feels very strange and scary here. But it feels similar to how you describe as in I have never. Thank you so much, Noemi, I will list two of the best astrology books in this post. Specially with tight orb under a degree. Together, these two make fireworks. This is like normal synastry, but were focusing on reading the charts and astrology reports from a sexual chemistry point of view. My Moon conjuncts her North Node at 1, and her Moon conjuncts my North Node at 3. It's a theoretical ideal. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Mind that someone here has a strong Neptunian vibe. Any theories? It makes him seem extremely nurturing. I've never been interested in a guy like Im interested in my Cap friend but at the same time Im deathly afraid of him because that means all of me will be "exsposed" to him making me vulnerable which is something Im not use to but I think Im suppose to learn something from him due to all the Saturn too. Im the Pluto person and cant stop thinking about him. If one cant double his words with facts what are his words good for. You want your partner to spend more time with you, preferably all the time they have. I want to know if our synastry and composite chart is a good indicator of a future long-lasting marriage between us, and are we soulmates or twin flames? sun cnj pluto As humans living on this planet, we have to learn that transformation is part of the process, if not the whole process. l also read you can have what someone described as a "double whammy" when the connection is reciprocated and the feelings are the same for both. The Moon person often gives subconscious emotional responses to the Pluto person. Neptune-Moon. Pluto is not just about obsession, revenge, jealousy, power struggles, or manipulation. However, I have seen cases where this does not occur, in that case the double whammy(s) tells me the dominant trend(s). Felt this much attraction, desire, intensity, passion, connection with or for anyone. Mine happens to be in 8H, along with a couple other planets, which amplifies the general Plutonian influence. Are you rapid-fire about mood swings, though? One is Mars conjunct Pluto and the other Mars trine Pluto at tight angles. My birthday is 9/18/85 6:50am eastern time. Indeed there are four DW's. But check it out quickly because he might have left you emotionally unavailable for more healthier (and not toxic) individuals. Sometimes it feels like the Moon conjunct Pluto synastry relationship is out of control. Hello, If one person does not find the other attractive. But if not, the Moon conjunct Pluto synastry can be tragic and extremely painful. Its difficult to live like that. If your planet conjuncts or opposes this midpoint, you are the external manifestation of that need. mars conjunct sun This is a very interesting discussion including some very interesting information. Hi LeeLoo, The Moon person feels like they cannot live without the Pluto person. I got in touch with him, we wrote crazy and extremely hot things for each other in the last weeks of August. It may not display this or other websites correctly. We have been together for over a year now and have been discussing the possibility of marriage recently. A natal MOON-PLUTO conjunction indicates the native has deeply intense emotions across the board, may be adept at using their own emotions to manipulate others, or have the ability to effectively transmute their emotions into something productive (or destructive, as should be the case). Normally ourselves and someone we like/fancy. Any significance? Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com 2000 Remembering our aspect is of 0. You are automatically compelled by each other with Moon conjunct Pluto in the syanstry chart, but generally speaking, with any Moon-Pluto synastry aspect. Astrology For entertainment purposes only 4) Transformative: Pluto contacts or conjunctions, intense house overlays. I have this DW in a synastry, as well. However neither one of us has tried to leave the other and I imagine that will be a awful experience with the potential to go so bad so fast in just about anyway conceivable. 5. Colors How about Venus/Mars to the Lights? Hi, Thelma :) What questions do you have about Siamese aspects? Synastry: Moon - Saturn Aspects Synastry: Moon - Uranus Aspects Synastry: Moon - Neptune Aspects Between Two Charts Synastry: Moon - Pluto Aspects Between Two Charts Synastry: Moon - Ascendant Aspects Between Two Charts Synastry: Venus-Mars Aspects Between Two Charts THE ASTROLOGY OF LOVE & ATTRACTION: ARTICLES & GUIDES Print Search Site Menu: Pluto is about power in astrology. Moon square Pluto is in my opinion one of the worst synastry aspects, and if you have a Moon . Thank you. Pluto is famous for its X-ray vision in astrology. Not just angles in general - the fact it was IC, classically ruled by the MOON, your chart ruler, that made it such a potent experience. In these cases, the sexual energies and attraction are indicated with both parties. Think sitting next to a roaring fire. Hi, Jamie :) All aspects between Sun Moon Venus and Mars in all combinations are extremely significant in synastry, and generally all aspects between the personal planets, Mercury and love planets included. Forecasts Does it at least show we would be extremely important to each other in some form or fashion? We have: His Pluto at 9 Scorpio trine my Moon at 7 Pisces My Pluto at 22 Virgo trine his Moon at 20 Capricorn 3. The only thing is that it is such an obsession that I feel for him, I dont know if he feels the same for me (I doubt because hes married and has 3 kids). Linda's Neptune was also conjunct Paul's Ascendant. 1. Thank you for summarizing all the important points. dear LeeLoo, sorry for calling you by the wrong name! I see that in some cases you've mentioned "major aspects", but in number 12 and 13 for instance you seem to have only counted the conjunction, or am I mistaken? This is not to say that the Pluto person doesnt love the Moon person (or at least that they are not attracted to them). NN trine sun; sq sat/plu Resistance is futile for me when I experience the double whammy. Do you know how to find the location of Priapus in a natal chart? This guy youre interested in is not respecting his marriage OR your connection. A relationship with Moon conjunct Pluto synastry is not one of them. Venus conjunct Mars Synastry means that marriage is important to them. even a stranger has courtesy to not intentionally hurt the feelings of someone, this man knowing you for years supposedly loving you just built up a whole lie that WILL definitely be revealed one day and does he care that you would be crushed? This aspect also lends itself to power struggles and domination. Like MOON's big brother. This is different from conjunctions, which act more as amplifiers, or oppositions, which encourage boldness and open-sleeve honesty. It lends an intuitive insight into things hidden in the dark or under the surface. Double whammies in synastry refer to inter-aspects between the same two or three or more factors (planets and points) of the people involved. My Pluto trines his Moon in Pisces. Pls help me! If you have a Moon trine Pluto or Moon sextile Pluto aspect in your synastry chart, there is a significantly easier flow of energy in the relationship. If the relationship is good, the relationship can be healing and deeply transforming. Theres an exact support about what each other specifically needs in an emotional love. Can you please tell me what happens when a woman's juno conjuncts a man's pluto (exact conjunction) in synastry? I cant stop thinking about him, then out of blue I searched his name on the internet, and I found out that he is married and the father of 3 children. Psychic Case Studies The composed aspects are crazy to. Oh God I have unconditional love for my pluto person. I've had a double whammy of Moon trine Pluto in synastry and it was . Please leave. Pluto Mars trine, pluot Venus conjunct (hes pluto) with a lot of easier aspects. But I understand that so it never gets far down that line. That's like Moon-Pluto to the second power. JUPITER is about as subtle as a beast, but always has the best intentions in mind, lol. You must have X-ray like insights. Im sorry Im just rambling at this point but I liked hearing your perspective as someone from the opposite end. With the man who's Pluto is conjunct my IC 1, I think what you said is right. The problem here is an additional, unhealthy desire to control one another through jealousy manipulation and possessiveness. Sun/Mars is an energetic Yang combo, masculine, physical, raw energy is amplified, for good or bad, Moon/Venus is the Yin counterpart, it brings softness, intimacy, emotionality, feeling sweet, tender, protective and forgiving with each other and Moon/Mars amplifies emotions, for good and bad, makes for a "hot" interaction, and it is also an Yin/Yang pair, it can get a little bumpy at times, because of Mars in danger of stomping on Moon's sensitivity, but it's also an aspect of strong physical attraction, on the raw side, and fertility, among other things. She 1998/Spe/22 time unknown Taipei Taiwan. This is true. Plutonian relationships are associated with obsession for a reason. your Saturn aspecting the other person's moon and the other person's Saturn also aspecting your moon. Here are our important aspects in our synastry: So it seems extremely important that your venus sign and mars sign be more critical when examining the sexual astrology of any successful relationship. Their devotion to each other is greater than the challenges that they may encounter along the way. Moon conjunct Pluto synastry aspect is a perfect example of how these power struggles play out. What about a moon square mars double whammy ? If you prefer, since you can attach charts in Lindaland, you can post the charts and we can continue the conversation there. I would also like to know that does anyone know if a close conjunction, but not considered conjunction also had the same effect? I have a lot of the similarities with a guy and I feel so illogically and intensely connected to him even though I repressed my feeling previously. It's been a lifelong romance full of passion & sex, full of ups & downs, going on 40 yrs next year. I think it's much different for someone with AC-NN than AC-SN. Here, Pluto finds Venus intriguing and beautiful. Secrets from a Stargazer's Notebook, Debbi Kempton Smith: https://www.amazon.com/Secrets-Stargazers-Notebook-Debbi-Kempton/dp/1892881268